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we'll see we'll see but also i was LIED TO by spec and BELIEVED THE LIE
wasnt everyone pinged in infovote.....
ok u might be town quick switchup
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scum are obvi ernie, doggo, celestia gg scum are obvi ernie, doggo, celestia gg scum are obvi ernie, doggo, celestia gg 
TBD
♂️➡️), don’t underestimate how good she is as mafia♂️➡️), don’t underestimate how good she is as mafia 
time zones can make stuff hard time zones can make stuff hard still no meowers.... still no meowers.... 
what about my wolf game remotely reads as controlling wolf
no offense taken
no offense taken what about my wolf game remotely reads as controlling wolf ♂️➡️ i wanted ur read on xia and ernie
so why not try to use any of xiaysa's content to start a convo? so why not try to use any of xiaysa's content to start a convo? 
as for aqua, not much of an opinion there yet honestly, i don't feel like i got much to be able to judge her as of now, mostly seems carefree from what i have seen
as for fresh, it has been a lil while since we last played, but from what i can recall rn at least, i'd say he seems fine so far from what i've read, no specific thoughts yet either (it has been too long so i don't remember too much rn, + it's 2am gg)
doggo is, well, being himself i'd say? he's reading the chat, picking up on things and sharing his thoughts 
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those are actually the worst. glad you're getting back into it and hope recent games have been kinder those are actually the worst. glad you're getting back into it and hope recent games have been kinder 
as for aqua, not much of an opinion there yet honestly, i don't feel like i got much to be able to judge her as of now, mostly seems carefree from what i have seen
as for fresh, it has been a lil while since we last played, but from what i can recall rn at least, i'd say he seems fine so far from what i've read, no specific thoughts yet either (it has been too long so i don't remember too much rn, + it's 2am gg)
doggo is, well, being himself i'd say? he's reading the chat, picking up on things and sharing his thoughts 
im trying to decide if this is a real derp or not
not the most eurasian friendly sod so if any of the more afk slots are eastern hemisphere then they'll probs join son enough
get eep
since i want to somehow get better at doing reads
did it seem unnatural? sure, but keep in mind, it's not like me to do so, and do you really think I'd be willing to take such a gamble if I really was maf rn?
up to you to believe me or not ofc, but just thought I'd explain myself
since i want to somehow get better at doing reads
did it seem unnatural? sure, but keep in mind, it's not like me to do so, and do you really think I'd be willing to take such a gamble if I really was maf rn?
up to you to believe me or not ofc, but just thought I'd explain myself 
in your latest game, so i’m a lil confused by the tonality switch. idk how much different is the atmosphere in that game compared to here in your latest game, so i’m a lil confused by the tonality switch. idk how much different is the atmosphere in that game compared to here 
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, but i feel like even if u didn’t town told i would’ve found u eventually, but i feel like even if u didn’t town told i would’ve found u eventually )) 
♂️♂️ i meant to make it readable 
girl hasn’t even played with long form with me girl hasn’t even played with long form with me ♂️➡️aqua is a gorilla ngl
tho it is true i am more wary of those i know are good players, i don't fully trust they're town yet for me (but this is also me just second guessing everything)
i kept on checking in because i couldn't sleep and would rather focus on the chat here than let my thoughts keep on running wild about some stuff unrelated to this game
i really wouldn't say lack of reads from me this early on is anything that unusual for me tho, but if you think so Discord for some reason can’t load messages now and for the past many years… please ur funny bro what? bro what? 
u need to check in with the doctor about that that’s like doing pattern leads♂️➡️ u alright i guess 1 1 
tho it is true i am more wary of those i know are good players, i don't fully trust they're town yet for me (but this is also me just second guessing everything)
i kept on checking in because i couldn't sleep and would rather focus on the chat here than let my thoughts keep on running wild about some stuff unrelated to this game
i really wouldn't say lack of reads from me this early on is anything that unusual for me tho, but if you think so 
otherwise u wouldn’t have brought it up 
otherwise u wouldn’t have brought it up aqua ur about to take the easy way out? aqua ur about to take the easy way out? and accept the fast♂️➡️♂️➡️♂️➡️
There is also the times where she put pressure on me for things that i felt like where inherently obvious asf even for her.
Not sure what you mean by this, sorry.
now that she is kinda forcing a world where i might be scum, when im considering the potential for their to be a mafia world in her gameplay, it kinda feels forced to me and just overall not genuine.
This is a pretty drastic misinterpretation of what I’m doing. I’m not sure is it’s low level omegas, or if I hurt your feelings somehow so it’s just reactive.
What I did: poke you for shading me by saying I was being too controlling.
Why this is a problem for me: you claimed you did meta diving, you claimed you read my town game, and you claimed you started to read a scum game but got bored. So it feels like you don’t actually have an interest in my range, and are simply running with “I know this person is a good town, so that means I should present them as a plausibly scary wolf.”
That’s pretty disingenuous when you haven’t actually read my scum game.
Disingenuity =/= scumminess tho. You can be paranoid lazy town. In fact that’s where I’ve been leaning you, which is why I never voted you?? Me double checking my bases and poking stuff that concerns me =/= me attacking you. And frankly so far you’ve been a bit uncharitable, and have only answered my pokes by then shading me, which isn’t at all conducive to solving as a team or finding each other.
TL;DR: I think you’re town. I think you talking about meta is LAMIST and is a distraction here. I think if you want to fantasize that I’m a big bad power wolf you should crosscheck my MU games or get a grip, and I think both of us to give more grace to each other.
K? K. 
its a slight scupting was supposed to be its a slight scum ping ?
hey, you're being sus, there's nothing from you to townread, so do better or i won't hesitate to kill you Neither ernie nor celestia have done anything worth townreading, and neither have produced enough content for me to push into. My questions aren't random, they're based in how people put out content. Otherwise they're just glorified icebreakers, which aren't helpful for solving at all imo.
bro you're literally the anticonsensus lol what kind of argument is that
1 and accept the fast 
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ok gotcha, that makes sense
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oh gotcha ty oh gotcha ty
but let's see, for ones where i didn't sub out the most recent ones would be #ne64-chat, #co17-sf1-chat
#co17-q2-chat
enjoy kornacki cam but that's towny tho wut lol
" is actually hard for mafia to fake well " is actually hard for mafia to fake well
and to be fair, i was also more familiar with the players then, in ne64 so some of them were just a lot easier for me to read at the time see thing is
"it's just my thoughts" that kinda dismisses the other person's attempt to engage: if you're town your thoughts ought to have reasoning behind them. people arent trying to intentionally frustrate you, they're trying to sus out the reasoning to see if its agendad or towny even if he is being anti town even if he is being anti town in your latest game, so i’m a lil confused by the tonality switch. idk how much different is the atmosphere in that game compared to here i thought u only had like a couple of games played from the way u we’re acting in the me i thought u only had like a couple of games played from the way u we’re acting in the me 
♂️➡️♂️➡️ ok
ok fully ignoring me doesn’t really help ur case isn't going to help the rest of the game, because it essentially creates a dynamic of me just defending myself while you say " but stett your defense is kinda scummy actuallly". it's a waste of time and posts and effort unless you're mafia, and if you're town you ought to have the skillset to find me off how i engage with others too.fully ignoring me doesn’t really help ur case isn't going to help the rest of the game, because it essentially creates a dynamic of me just defending myself while you say " but stett your defense is kinda scummy actuallly". it's a waste of time and posts and effort unless you're mafia, and if you're town you ought to have the skillset to find me off how i engage with others too. what do you think of my current vote wanobi.fully ignoring me doesn’t really help ur case isn't going to help the rest of the game, because it essentially creates a dynamic of me just defending myself while you say " but stett your defense is kinda scummy actuallly". it's a waste of time and posts and effort unless you're mafia, and if you're town you ought to have the skillset to find me off how i engage with others too. what do you think of my current vote wanobi. , i tried my best with analysis but its day one so i dont know , but its fun that i get the reaction as if i am pocketing you guys been keeping me intrigued so fair play 
and he's a useless ic if we're wrong" not also apply to celestia? and he's a useless ic if we're wrong" not also apply to celestia? hope i don't have a ton of posts to sift through. are we meme phase or is there something solid yet? any posts i should look at? -> backreading everyone's posts and responding only to kinda pointless things in pointless ways felt like a potentially lazy scum tactic of looking for prompting instead of taking initiative, and then struggling to make game related content when asked to. BUT some people just struggle more with sod. this was a good response, this felt like towney nonchalence this showed that when presented with meta info, he actually started digging for examples, which maf aren't typically bothered to do, and he then had just a lot of really towny posts b2b2b that showed an interest in the game and an attempt to process what was happening. He feels genuine and solvy in his own way, and even tho there's some process stuff i super disagree with like this that's not the sort of disagreement that typically indicates an alignment difference, just a playstyle difference. I don't really agree with his method of backreading, but i think pretty consistently over the past two days he's had decent thoughts and input and neither you (wanobi) or you (fresh) attempting to engage with ay of it bothers me. since it could come from lost scum/lost town/or fabricating scum
This is the kinda energy i recall from celestia when reading her NE game, it’s hard to say if it applies in a macro level cause there she was always caught up with the game, and in here she is not
This is a fair point, that ur inactivity is basically NAI, i’d say its a stretch to say that u we’re fully engaged in ur sp57 game where u we’re mafia imo, but u we’re definitely not occupied there
ok i really like her walls of text here it’s honestly leaning town, they seem easy to follow and i can kinda remember her tone being quite similar to her town game, i just don’t think the playstyle is the same, since in her latest NE game it took long for her to formulate reads, and i don’t think there were walls of reads there either, she is also not coming up with questions to reensure her reads, but this seems likes it’s NAI for her
wanted to say more but i don't want to bring more unnecessary emotions into this than necessary. since it could come from lost scum/lost town/or fabricating scum
This is the kinda energy i recall from celestia when reading her NE game, it’s hard to say if it applies in a macro level cause there she was always caught up with the game, and in here she is not
This is a fair point, that ur inactivity is basically NAI, i’d say its a stretch to say that u we’re fully engaged in ur sp57 game where u we’re mafia imo, but u we’re definitely not occupied there
ok i really like her walls of text here it’s honestly leaning town, they seem easy to follow and i can kinda remember her tone being quite similar to her town game, i just don’t think the playstyle is the same, since in her latest NE game it took long for her to formulate reads, and i don’t think there were walls of reads there either, she is also not coming up with questions to reensure her reads, but this seems likes it’s NAI for her
wanted to say more but i don't want to bring more unnecessary emotions into this than necessary. 
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i’m sorry i’m sorry 
Day 1 Votecount 4
doggodumbs: 1 - drfresh.1
kotruce: 4 - stett , aquamxrinee , .celestia_ludenberg. , wanobi.eth
Abstaining: 3 - kotruce , xiaysa , doggodumbs 
Dr Fresh DoggoLost Stett
Dr Fresh DoggoLost Celestia
Dr Fresh DoggoLost Aquamxrinee
Dr Fresh DoggoLost Ernie
Dr Fresh Stett Celestia
Dr Fresh Stett Aquamxrinee
Dr Fresh Stett Ernie
Dr Fresh Celestia Aquamxrinee
Dr Fresh Celestia Ernie
Dr Fresh Aquamxrinee Ernie
DoggoLost Stett Aquamxrinee
DoggoLost Celestia Aquamxrinee
DoggoLost Aquamxrinee Ernie
DoggoLost Stett Celestia
DoggoLost Stett Ernie
DoggoLost Celestia Ernie
Stett Celestia Aquamxrinee
Stett Aquamxrinee Ernie
Stett Celestia Ernie
Celestia Aquamxrinee Ernie @WaNObI :3 ur unpairings pls? 
ok why did this make me laugh, this dude is not real, imagine if dot was in this lobby now… ok why did this make me laugh, this dude is not real, imagine if dot was in this lobby now… but not celestia? LOL celestia and wanobi are w/w, the game state at EOD proves that the vote has to be v/m, only way to explain everyone being active at EOD and trying to throw their opinions across, in a sense of paranoia… if it was v/v game would look so different, there is 100% an agenda at EOD, wanobi and celestia agenda is the one i’m picking up on right now, and them both being the ones to jump on ernie aswell also make sense.
i just don’t follow with the attack on wanobi only coming after D2 by 2 players who basically did not vote wanobi at any point during D1 or didn’t seem to sus him as much as me and stett did. also celestia saying that she doesn’t think she is paired with wanobi because they argued is like… cool in that case everyone is unpaired with everyone purely on the fact that everyone pushed everyone, like assuming that a game is as linear as (mafia town each other which means that is the group is just so wrong) and i’m slowly starting to pick up on certain things that i was originally not picking up on it kinda feels like ur scared of seeming unnatural
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three <— on a micro level this makes think they might not be paired but, macro reads > micro reads so idc
four “well it has to be wanobi”… how does it have to be wanobi? why him? why does it feel like u are trying to throw dirt on him? it kinda feels like ur scared of seeming unnatural
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three <— on a micro level this makes think they might not be paired but, macro reads > micro reads so idc
four “well it has to be wanobi”… how does it have to be wanobi? why him? why does it feel like u are trying to throw dirt on him? 
♂️➡️ but not celestia? LOL celestia and wanobi are w/w, the game state at EOD proves that the vote has to be v/m, only way to explain everyone being active at EOD and trying to throw their opinions across, in a sense of paranoia… if it was v/v game would look so different, there is 100% an agenda at EOD, wanobi and celestia agenda is the one i’m picking up on right now, and them both being the ones to jump on ernie aswell also make sense.
i just don’t follow with the attack on wanobi only coming after D2 by 2 players who basically did not vote wanobi at any point during D1 or didn’t seem to sus him as much as me and stett did. also celestia saying that she doesn’t think she is paired with wanobi because they argued is like… cool in that case everyone is unpaired with everyone purely on the fact that everyone pushed everyone, like assuming that a game is as linear as (mafia town each other which means that is the group is just so wrong) and i’m slowly starting to pick up on certain things that i was originally not picking up on it kinda feels like ur scared of seeming unnatural
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two
three <— on a micro level this makes think they might not be paired but, macro reads > micro reads so idc
four “well it has to be wanobi”… how does it have to be wanobi? why him? why does it feel like u are trying to throw dirt on him? 
i love it when mafia comes in with the agenda hard between both of them , it has to be wanobi do make merch along the way u can it can help with how much you are promoting it i love it when mafia comes in with the agenda hard between both of them , it has to be wanobi do make merch along the way u can it can help with how much you are promoting it 
but exams are coming up and gotta rush to finish the last assignments atm)
i just realized they're both european so they may have fully fucked off by nowDr Fresh Stett WaNObi
Dr Fresh Stett Celestia
Dr Fresh Stett Aquamxrinee
Dr Fresh Stett Ernie
Dr Fresh WaNObi Celestia
Dr Fresh WaNObi Aquamxrinee
Dr Fresh WaNObi Ernie
Dr Fresh Celestia Aquamxrinee
Dr Fresh Celestia Ernie
Dr Fresh Aquamxrinee Ernie
Stett WaNObi Aquamxrinee
Stett Celestia Aquamxrinee
Stett Aquamxrinee Ernie
Stett WaNObi Celestia
Stett WaNObi Ernie
Stett Celestia Ernie
WaNObi Celestia Aquamxrinee
WaNObi Aquamxrinee Ernie
WaNObi Celestia Ernie
Celestia Aquamxrinee Ernie 
Dr Fresh Stett WaNObi
Dr Fresh Stett Celestia
Dr Fresh Stett Aquamxrinee
Dr Fresh Stett Ernie
Dr Fresh WaNObi Celestia
Dr Fresh WaNObi Aquamxrinee
Dr Fresh WaNObi Ernie
Dr Fresh Celestia Aquamxrinee
Dr Fresh Celestia Ernie
Dr Fresh Aquamxrinee Ernie
Stett WaNObi Aquamxrinee
Stett Celestia Aquamxrinee
Stett Aquamxrinee Ernie
Stett WaNObi Celestia
Stett WaNObi Ernie
Stett Celestia Ernie
WaNObi Celestia Aquamxrinee
WaNObi Aquamxrinee Ernie
WaNObi Celestia Ernie
Celestia Aquamxrinee Ernie 
it kinda feels like ur scared of seeming unnatural
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two
three <— on a micro level this makes think they might not be paired but, macro reads > micro reads so idc
four “well it has to be wanobi”… how does it have to be wanobi? why him? why does it feel like u are trying to throw dirt on him? 
can anyone summarize the arguments against wanobi and pin them for me when i am back later?can anyone summarize the arguments against wanobi and pin them for me when i am back later? 
do u not realize how wolfy it sounds to say that lol do u not realize how wolfy it sounds to say that lol do u not realize how wolfy it sounds to say that lol 
